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02/24/21 12:14 PM #1333    

 

Debbie Day (Camara) (1975)

And good luck to you who have received.Please don't judge people who chose not to take this expiremental shot.

02/24/21 01:28 PM #1334    

 

Paul Haller (1973)

 I choose to support folks who don't get the the shot. I personally know about a dozen people who have gotten the virus and have gotten over it and are just fine. Some were over 70 and one was in her 90,s only one was hospitalized. Since the virus is mutating there are no guarantees you won't get it even if you have the vaccine. What's the point if you still have to wear a mask after you've had the shot. I quit believing the CDC and World Health Organization long ago. I have never gotten flu shots and have been fine. I did get a shingles shot and know folks who got that vaccine and still got shingles.I choose not to live in fear of what may happen. Does anyone remember standing in line at John Muir to get a sugar cube with a vaccine in it would have been in the 60,s. Maybe it was for polio.  We left San Leandro a couple of years ago for a much quieter and less crazy life in Colorado. I am not a Kaiser patient but my brother Chris class of 70 was and they pretty much killed him. The hospital was at max capacity then and the day the sent him home he died getting out of his car in the driveway. He wasn't ready to go home but they forced him out anyway.  That being said I know when it's my time to go I know where the final destination will be and I actually look forward to that day. Yes I most likely won't get the shot. 

 

 


02/24/21 02:08 PM #1335    

 

Debbie Day (Camara) (1975)

Thank God we still have a choice.

02/24/21 03:01 PM #1336    

 

Donna Bohrer-Abbott (Mayfield) (1963)

OK, I realize we all have a choice.

  My husband and I both got our first injection today at RiteAid.  I had the virus back in November and never want to got through that again.  My real concern is for my husband who has a number of medical issues. 

Good luck to all of you and God bless.m


02/25/21 06:21 AM #1337    

Penny McGlasson (King) (1967)

Thank you to those that remember that we still have freedom of choice.  As I said in an earlier post we have a very close friend that has serious side effects from the shot and is now in the hospital with kidney issues.  He is a young man, he is very active in sports and works very hard every day to support his family which includes a baby.  

I pray daily for this planned-demic to end, and that we can all get back to our lives.  I left CA in 92 and never looked back.  I am quite happy living in the south where life is much simpler and a much slower pace.


02/25/21 07:20 AM #1338    

 

Debbie Day (Camara) (1975)

Bless you Penny.I will pray for that young man and also look forward to normal days if that's ever going to be possible.We were all lucky to have lived in the Best of times.

02/25/21 09:41 AM #1339    

 

Randall Johnese (1968)

Ms. Day, the vaccines are not experimental.  That phase was over before the CDC approved general use.  As to your right to a choice, you do have the right to choose to put yourself and others at risk and to make it harder to end this pandemic.  Unfortunately we allow people to make all kinds of anti-social choices.


02/25/21 11:30 AM #1340    

 

Debbie Day (Camara) (1975)

My name is Mrs Camara.The technology has been around for 10 years but these injections have never been used on humans before.So you see we are the expirement.People have died and have suffered serious side effects from the shot.Big media does not report these facts because we don't want to scare the sheeple.

02/26/21 09:01 AM #1341    

 

David Salsedo (1966)

I bet people such as Vince Acosta, Paul Tobias and his sister Rebecca had wished that they had taken the vaccine...They all died of the Covid and that was just in the first 6 weeks of this year.


02/26/21 09:44 AM #1342    

 

Peggy Wood (Guernsey) (1968)

I do remember getting the sugar cube Polio vaccine at John Muir with mom and dad.  My uncle had polio when I was just 6 mons old and he had played with me all dad with a fever that that night put him in an iron lung and docs telling my parents all they could do was "watch me" to see if I got it.  No idea if I have immunity, just my parents were SO grateful to get the vaccine even years later.  So to answer Randall comments, our USA history has been;  years to develope and test vaccines.  Maybe this is going to show they made a GREAT product and it turns out to last for yrs with maybe a booster.  I know my time and where I'm going so I am trusting the Lord for guidiance with the medical community as I think I need and question what I don't understand..   As for my Viking family Vincent death just ripped me apart, as did finding out about Drew's at my 50 yr reunion. I miss my Viking sisters lunches and laughter, and try to stay in touch with Mick Meyers, but not doing aswell as I should.  You all are important to me and memories posts.  You younger and older ones I do not know I love you posts of events, fun and current events.  I do feel close to you.  I pray you and your families are well and happy esp those in the sudden FREEZE OUT going on and now the thaw.  May God bless you all, Peggy


02/26/21 10:47 AM #1343    

Frances Britto (Claassens) (1968)

I just received my second shot and want to thank Randy Johnson for his absolutely accurate information on the Covid Vaccine and it's safety.


02/26/21 10:49 AM #1344    

Steve Magidson (1975)

HI All,

A good post on the Polio Vaccine.

The original was rushed out and many (in the thousands) died.

Look it up.

Please don't judge (or cancel) us that have still choose to exercise our free will.

Steve


02/26/21 11:23 AM #1345    

 

Debbie Day (Camara) (1975)

You are right Steve.Polio was already flat when they started giving it out to us like candy.The grim truth will set you free.

02/26/21 04:52 PM #1346    

 

Daniel Tapia (1973)

   I personally know dozens of people who got the virus and Vince who hung out with my brothers is one of them.  Over 505,000 people dead from coronavirus never got a choice to take the vaccine. They surely would have taken the vaccine if it was there. More than one family member dying in some families. 

   28.4 Million cases have recovered many have lasting side effects.  My brother-in-law is still suffering from side effects after he and his family all got the virus 3 month ago.  

  The vaccine was developed because of science and is safe. Science saved non believers of science even Donald Trump who then said I think I'm Immune.  When the vaccine is available for me I will take it.  Not just for me but to also protect the people that don’t want to protect themselves and their family members. 

   After 45 years as a Maintenance Mechanic having to  work with toxic chemicals at times for days mask do work.


02/26/21 07:59 PM #1347    

 

Debbie Day (Camara) (1975)

I have not heard that Donald Trump even got the injection.Funny how no one died from the flu this year.I heard Covid killed the flu.Lol.Did you know over 7,000 people die everyday around the world.Everyone will die one day,I intend on doing what I think is best for me and my family.I am for your information, a nurse and would never infect my patience, so please stop trying to make me feel quilty.I think they will reach herd immunity by the summer and I can assure you not everyone is receiving this emergency shot.Lots of people have died due to their preexisting conditions and werelabeled having Covid.Stay healthy,don't drink or take drugs,get some exercise and eat healthy and you will be able to use your immune system to fight off what ever somes along.Peace be with you.

02/27/21 03:27 AM #1348    

 

Daniel Tapia (1973)

  Never said Trump was given the vaccine, it wasn't out yet.  He was given 8 drugs treatment. Dexamethasone is one of them. Given Dexamethasone he must have been pretty bad.  With HIPAA  we won't ever know. 
  Covid-19 is worse than the seasonal flu.  Hospitals have been at full capacity Ambulance not able to drop off patients.  Never had that happen because of flu season.  People are dying from the flu but because of Covid 19 is over three times greater than the flu it's not the main concern.  My niece is a nurse taking care of Covid patients that leave the hospital but still need care. She got the virus from a patient she had to do CPR on.  Then the family got Covid.  They said is far worse than the flu and you don't want to get it.  Some people just get a mild case, everyone is effected differently you don't get a choice.
  Like everything,the viris spread slowly to over 28,000,000 confirmed cases in the US in over one year.  Didn't go away in summer, climbed back up in Winter. 
   Dec.14,2020 the first Pfizer vaccine was given 68.3 M. people doses given 21.6 Fully Vaccinated 6.57% of the population fully vaccinated.  Look at the cases dropping.  By wearing masks, social distancing just a percentage of the population getting the vaccine cases are dropping.  Be nice if we could reach herd immunity probably won't happen for a long time.  Hopefully by taking the vaccine we can eventually reach herd immunity.  
  I Want to be part of the solution, not the part of the problem.
Peace be with you and your family.

02/27/21 05:47 AM #1349    

 

Joseph Steele (1968)

United we stand divided we fall. Kinda of a neet saying don't you think. What happened. One person did this what will it take for millions to become a nation again. Oops then here comes the virus, now we're farther apart than we need to be. Oops then comes the vaccine even farther we get. I always thought AMERICA WAS GREAT I didn't need to make it great again I never lost our greatness, call me what you like but don't call me un American because I believe in us all. One person can't break the American spirit, and one person won't. I'm just feeling sorry for the ones that won't see that great day when we all become one again, as we were before all this started. This virus has taken to many of the greatest ones. Let's hope that what we have now won't make us ungreat. 


02/27/21 09:16 AM #1350    

 

Robin Cambra (Cranford) (1972)

Everyone has a choice of whether or not to get vaccinated.  I for one received both of my doses of the Pfizer vaccine with no side affects at all.  All those close to me are choosing to do the same.   I feel relieved that I now have some protection and that I am doing my part in helping to bring an end to the Pandemic. 

Of course you hear stories of people contracting COVID-19 and coming through with no issues.  But there are thousands who have died and many more who are now suffering long lasting issues.  I am happy to hear that yet another vaccine is on the horizon.  

Now about Polio:  My father was struck with polio the year before the vaccine came out. He was in an Iron Lung for quite some time and damage was done to one of his lungs and he lost all the muscle in his legs.  From that point on he was wheelchair bound until he died at the age of 47 from a bout of pneumonia when his good lung collapsed.  If a vaccine had been available to him all those years ago I like to think he would have lived a much longer and healthier life.  

 


02/27/21 10:45 AM #1351    

 

Michael Soto (Soto) (1965)

I have received both Covid shots. I have had no bad after effects, other than a little soreness at sight of injection.

02/27/21 12:35 PM #1352    

 

Carol Truex (Young) (1967)

I'm not joining this conversation to persuade but infact to inform. I have been a Registered Nurse for 40 years, and worked in the Emergency Dept for 36 years. I have seen and cared for many patients during outbreaks of deadly viruses. This one is different in terms of how contagious it is and the long lasting effects to the lungs damaging the alveoli (air sacs) causing scarring and permanent damage to breathing. The heart imaging scans taken months after recovery show damage to the heart muscle again with long term effects. Most people on this forum are in the age group that is most susceptible to these lasting conditions that will kill you or negatively impact your life. The messenger vaccine has been studied for 20+ years. Covid 19's arrival gave scientists the incentive backed by global financial power so the vaccine they had been studying for decades was able to be produced, put through all the clinical trials and manufactured to the approval of the most stringent studies and evaluation of the FDA. Most interesting to me was all the nurses and doctors rushing to be first in line to get the vaccine. I do not know one colleague young or old who has refused to get this vaccine, including myself. Depending on your stage of life, if you're able to stay home, choose your time to shop, not gather in any crowds or indoor events, avoid family that are in the 19-50 age group and their children, you might be able to avoid exposure. If you do get Covid and are hospitalized you will be given a lot of different medications that are almost experimental in terms of their use in the setting of Covid. The choice is yours wishing you all good health. 


02/27/21 04:53 PM #1353    

 

Donna Bohrer-Abbott (Mayfield) (1963)

Thank you Carol for this excellent information.  I totally agree with you as I have friends in the medical field and they mirror your response. As I stated earlier I had the virus last November and have also received the 1 injection from pfizer.  My husband had no ill effects, I on the other hand had a very bad response for one day and we believe it was due to the fact that I have fibromyalgia and it triggered a response.  We will be getting our second injections on March 17th.  Hope everyone stays safe and healthy.


02/27/21 05:28 PM #1354    

 

Linda Munoz (Brooks) (1965)

Thank you Carol Truex Young for posting your valuable information. I didn't want to chime in either. I know we all have a right to our own choices in life, but I feel anyone who does not get a shot is taking their life in their hands. Very few people get reactions. Here's hoping no one in our group gets this deadly virus let alone gve it to a family member. Not judging any one.

Linda (Munoz) Brooks.


02/27/21 08:21 PM #1355    

 

Peggy Wood (Guernsey) (1968)

Robin, I am so very sorry for your loss. My extended family( older and even my gen and 2 cousins) lived with the FEAR of polio 'cus no one knew how my 15yr old uncle got it at 15 and  I was 6mo with him all that day before he went into an iron lung that night.  None of us ever got it and he came out like a limp wet washcloth, Went on to marry, have 3 kids, and run Jerry's Burgers and Jerry's Pancake Parade! PTL. YES Joseph, We are Americans and Pacific Vikings. I believe in a "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country" JFK. Look how many Americans  come to the aid of others after a Freeway collaps with  others climing in to help before first responders even get there, food and blankets and cloths when those first fires hit CA , and during all this cov-19 bring food, checking on those home bound, change manufacturing products to PPC needs, make masks and give away, change brewing to make hand santanizer, etc...Americans even without money or a home come out to help some one in need. For me an American can be even undocumented but working towards it and cares and respects , about this country, values, people etc ( future American on paper), a new visa arrival who wants to stay and be an American with paperwork, but cares about this country, even those born here that love this country and sre not using their statis against others.  In otherwords anyone who loves this country, respects life and liberty, willing to fight for freedom, share, care and help.  I probably have said too much or the wrong way and someone will be offended or hurt, I will say I'm so sorry now.  Daniel  Great info, I believe you are part of the solution Thank you.  Debbie, thank you for stayin strong.  David Thank you  you for your heart. Randall "herd culling" Be aware that Ins Companies incl the Affordalbe Care Act are cutting back on tests, services etc for seniors deemed (quietly under the table talk) too old to reap the benefits of a surgery, or procedure, or test groups, not worth the money it would cost, many women already know what cancer screenings we "don't need"  to me is CULLING SENIORS,  I do truely pray I have not offended anyone, my heart is sincere.  Peggy 


02/28/21 05:39 AM #1356    

 

Joseph Ferreira (1966)

Thank you Carol. The RN, CWOCN that I'm married to agrees with you. Our second vaccine is scheduled for March 3rd.


02/28/21 06:03 AM #1357    

 

Joseph Steele (1968)

PEGGY. 

THATS WHY ITS CALLED FREE  SPEACH. If they don't want to hear what you say they can go read something else.  Don't be afraid to say what you mean. And Carol keep up the good work on the information. Joe glad to see that everything is going well and your staying safe. Neighborhood buds great to hear from you. If we all do our part we should be back to almost normal in a little while. THE FLU PANDEMIC  took three years to tame.  Be patient and be a survivor. 

 


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